2004-2012 P.Missin - Details

This is an expanded version of a post sent to harp-l in Februrary 2004. Recently it's become something of a challenge to keep this information up to date, as another manufacturer has come to the market and the established manufacturers have brought out even more models. Please take the following as an overview and for details on specific models you may wish to check the harmonica reviews on this site.

Temperaments of various out-of-the-box diatonic harmonicas

So tell us - where (besides a customiser) can one find a harmonica in that
Just Intonation? If that's a component of SBW / LW's playing style, I want it!
I know Hohner's current MS & HM tuning standards are NOT "Just", but some
"compromised" version of it.

The Hohner Golden Melody is tuned to straight 12TET at around A=442/443. The other HandMade/Classic Diatonics are curently tuned with a light temperament, quite close to the traditional 7-limit tuning, but with a somewhat less "flat" 5 draw and 9 draw. The new Marine Band Crossover uses a compromise tuning favoured by Steve Baker, somewhat closer to equal temperament than JI.

The MS harps use something that is tempered a little further from JI and the 5 draw and 9 draw in this tuning are considerably sharper than on the HandMade/Classic harps. The MS harps also tend to be tuned a little higher overall.

The Hohner Silver Star is tuned to 12TET and I assume that others of their Chinese-made range are tuned similarly. Based on limited samples, it seems that their Special 20s in Country Tuning (where the 5 draw has been raised by a semitone) use the same light temperament as the standard Special 20, with the 5 draw tuned a little below its equal tempered equivalent to make a relatively smooth major triad in holes 4, 5 and 6 draw. Based on an even smaller sample, it seems that their Marine Bands in Natural Minor Tuning are tuned close to 5-limit JI, with all the minor thirds and minor sevenths tuned sharper than their equal tempered equivalents. It may also be worth noting that Hohner tunes the root notes of the chords (1 blow and 2 draw) on their mN harps to the same values as on their major key harmonicas. This means that the Eb in hole 2 of a Cm Natural Minor harp (what Lee Oskar would call a GmN) is substantially higher in pitch than the D# in hole 2 of a B major harp. I haven't worked on any recently made Hohner harps in Harmonic Minor Tuning, although for what it is worth, the old Hohner Orchester minor harps were in 12TET (as were the Orchesters in major keys).

Seydel seem to use a tempering scheme similar to that used on the HandMade/Classic Hohners, but usually tuned a tad higher overall, most often being rooted relative to A=445 or so. On some of their harps the 5 draw and 9 draw notes are tuned closer to 7-limit JI, on other harps they are tuned a little higher, closer to a 19-limit tuning. I currently have no experience of how their minor and other tunings are tempered.

Do any of the manufacturers use Just Intonation? I'd like to find a stock
harmonica in that tuning - Maybe the Hering 1923? The Delta Frost?

The Delta Frost is equal tempered, as are most Tombo/Lee Oskar and Suzuki diatonics, mostly around A=442. One notable exception is the recent Tombo Folk Blues II which uses an unusual JI variation - the 5 draw is tuned so that it is a perfect fourth above the note in 4 blow (close to where it would be on an equal tempered or 19-limit JI harp), then the 6 draw is tuned to make a pure major third with it, the 9 draw and 10 draw notes being tuned similarly. This makes for a nice smooth partial chord to suggest the subdominant in the first position key, but it also means that the minor chord in holes 4, 5 and 6 draw is now somewhat out of tune, as the interval between 4 draw and 6 draw is somewhat narrower than a pure fifth. The recently introduced Suzuki Fabulous diatonics are apparently available in both 12TET and JI, but as yet I haven't had a chance to study one. The Suzuki Manji uses a compromise tuning which is essentially equal temperament with a few cents lopped off the major thirds of the chords. The new Suzuki Olive has a similar tuning, but the sample I tried also had the 6 and 10 draw noticeably lowered.

Huang diatonics have used various tuning schemes over the years, but the most recent ones seem to be intended to be in 12TET, although their tuning is somewhat variable. Ditto for most of the other Chinese made diatonics.

Most of the stock 10-hole diatonics currently available in the traditional 7-limit Just Intonation scheme seem to come from Brazil. This includes the Hering 1923 Vintage, the Hering Black Blues and the Hering Rhythm Blues (their 12-hole tenor C harp, sadly no longer in production).

Up until recently, all Hering diatonics were in JI usually tuned somewhere between A=442 and 445, but the Super 20 and the Hering Blues have recently been changed over to 12TET. The Golden Blues is now in "brilliant tuning", meaning that it is tuned a little higher than their other harps, but they don't specify whether its relative tuning is Just or tempered and I haven't worked on one for a while. The older wood combed Hering Master Blues was in JI, but the new plastic combed model seems to have shifted to a more tempered tuning. I also recall that the last Hering Free Blues I worked on was tuned Just, but that was a while ago and I'm not sure how they are currently tuned.

The Brasilian company Bends (now defunct) also used 7-limit JI for most of their diatonic models, although there may be some variation between different production runs. For what it's worth, the last Hohner 364 and 356 Marine Bands I serviced were closer to 7-limit JI at A=444 than to anything else, although the SBS harps seem to use a light temperament much like that currently used on the 10-hole MB. I've not played one myself, but Hohner also have a diatonic produced solely for the US market called the Blue Midnight. This is an MS harp apparently tuned to 7-limit JI.

However, the single most important thing to keep in mind is that we are dealing with mass-produced items and there will often be significant variation in the tuning even between supposedly identical models.


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